Dear friends,

hi. I answered Fabrizio when his e-mail was too hard. Now I would like to
answer again, and this time I'm happy to do it because now Fabrizio's
message is constructive and positive. Thank you, Fabrizio.

Ok. If  lobbying is first of all finding a common identity I agree: this is
one of the most important things in a Region. I really think the Rainbow
identity now is strong, but it can be better, and it depends on our
behaviour, Italian people! When we will stop to consider Rainbow  as an
Italian Region (maybe with Italian as official language!) and we will start
to feel Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Malta joined with Italy in one body,
we will have a real common identity. And in this direction I really promote
Fabrizio's idea of cooperation, of compactness.

Fabrizio spoke also about the South-West Region (Spain, France and
Portugal). I can understand this link: we have lots of things in common with
those countries, but please, pay attention! We are talking again as if
Rainbow was only Italy!
Anyway if Fabrizio's recipe is cooperation with this Region I agree with
him, because cooperation is always useful. And if the way is to increase
aggregation moments, meetings, exchanges of ideas inside but also outside
the Region, it's a good idea we have to develop.
And if through these situations we will find other valid people (as our
Davide Calenda, our Ivana Vukov and also our Dominika Wiora, that's a member
of AEGEE-Cagliari now!) for AEGEE Europe we will make something good
supporting them also at the elections.
Free the energies?! In this way yes! Sure! And I think this is something
precious not only for each Region, but first of all for all AEGEE !

About your frustration (but not only yours!) because of the unusual way to
sign the Convention d'Adhesion I totally agree with you, Fabrizio, but I
just told it.

I'm very happy to know you're still so motivated, Fabrizio,and I'm sure
withsomuch energy we will have a great PM in Cagliari and a great Agora in
Athina.

Have a great time in Sweden, Fabrizio!
Have a great time everywhere in the rainbow, friends!

Luca


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Luca Falcone
President AEGEE Napoli
Network Sub-Commissioner RAINBOW Region
Speaker Visa Freedom Fighters
PR Responsible AEGEE HRWG
Secretary Bobigosa WG
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cucumber" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:32 PM
Subject: [RAINBOW-L] Motivation (even more)!


> Re-vitalizing a list is already something for a provocative message!
> I didn't know so many people were subscribed to rainbow-l, Gunnar,
> Markella, and all the oldies and newbies make this a strong list for a
> strong region.
>
> So many people followed-up my email about motivation and lobbying that
> it is impossible to quote personally not to bore the others here;
> firstly thanks to Luca, Enrico and the others who named me a "very
> motivated person" and Termoli as one of the best presentations during
> the Agora.
>
> About lobbying allow me to speak a few more words, after looking
> carefully at the reactions this magic word created.
> Yes, I am in favour of lobbying, yes I think it is a good thing! So,
> did I get crazy?
>
> My words were maybe over-emotional in that moment, but cold-blooded now
> it is time to read through it again. Since I think all of this is due
> to the extra-tensed way that people are creating alliances and secret
> pacts to defend each other. This is a bad thing, and I agree it needs
> to be fought!
>
> What I express with "lobbying" is a sane concept, no secret, no
> masonry. Working together and cooperating! Speaking with each other,
> meeting, feeling compact and working out the present conflicts! I
> strongly believe that people from Spain and Italy, especially from the
> South, have much much more to say than they do now.
> Only we need to "free the energies"! Give the people a platform to
> discuss their ideas and to see that they are not alone, as we are many
> who would like to "do something more" for Aegee!
>
> Just one more paragraph to go. We have some unsolved conflicts at the
> moment, as I see that Chiara did not really appreciate my way to
> express things. Southern Italians are very different from Northern
> Italians; in every event I have been I heard some italians to specify
> their origin from south or north... and indeed for me it is perfectly
> normal to shout loud "as in the ill-working italian parliament" my
> ideas in an emotional way, thing that maybe Chiara would never do. But
> it is just a matter understanding each other, never we begin never we
> get somewhere!
>
> I feel that we need first to look inside ourselves and see what is not
> effective in our way to work in Aegee on the European Level. Let me say
> that I believe Luca was a perfect candidate for JC and I sincerely ask
> to myself why he didn't find a way to it. Maybe he could have
> contributed to that difficult situation in a more effective way? Yes,
> we shout out loud, but we also know how to work hard when it is needed.
> I hope Luca agrees!
>
> It is only after we understand what keeps us from forming a body with
> at least some common ideas and denominator that we can look outside for
> recognition. I would like to see Italy contribute more! And Spain!
> We can not only enter some existent body, but also contribute to the
> discussion about the reforms... I don't want to campaign only for
> position, but also make our voice be heard when it is time for making
> the important decisions. This does NOT happen now! Look at Davide's
> proposal about transparency, it is very good but obviously something
> did not work out fine. What, why?
> Is it just that we are shorter and less fluent in English than northern
> europeans? (As I notice here in Sweden?) Or that we have less capacity
> to tie up together into a common voice?
>
> This is my idea of lobbying, and I am sorry if this hurts someone or
> awoke phantoms of secret organizations or P2. I am sure that Davide's
> work with a big team of subcommissioners was a good start, maybe now it
> is time to look for further improvements...
> well, I hope I made myself clear without over-emotional ´biases this
> time, and I really wait for the ideas of rainbowists after reading such
> a long e-mail
> Your President of Aegee-Termoli
> Fabrizio Fantini
>
>
> PS Let me finish with the shit :) Ok, I used a hard word for it, but I
> expected the signing of the Convention d'Adhesion to be for my 10
> friends hardly persuaded to pay the trip to Amsterdam, to be an
> unforgettable moment to mark their first step in Aegee. Can I say that
> this moment was awful?
> 20 locals ready to sign... tension in the air with Matina and Dijan
> sitting in the first row crying and sobbing. The CD was not singing for
> the signing (word-game)... I was almost the only one with Pepijn to
> know the whole song and singing from the front stage, plus some one
> from the public. It was lousy!!!! Again, sorry, of course the
> word "shit" was quite strong, as they were the emotions all the
> presents felt in Amsterdam :)
>
>
>
>
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