Dear Manos, dear Rainbowers,
I think that there is something that is not clear in the distinction between
regions and teams. A region remains as it is, formed by the same locals all
the times, while teams are formed and dissolved all the times and so once
you are together with some other locals, 6 months later you're no more.
Basically, italian locals (centre and south Italy) have always and will
probably always be together, for geographical reasons, but in the North for
example we are experiencing frequent changes of teams. We, Venezia, last
semester were with Ljubljana but not with Padova, now we are with Padova but
not with Ljubljana but together with Budapest... see?
So I think that Rainbow-L could remain but, as Manos said, can't have any
official role.
About the mailing list of the team, there is no other solution than giving
it the name of the NetCommie, simply because in 6 months NOT ONLY THE NAME
of the NetCommie will change, BUT ALSO THE ANTENNAE forming this team will
not be the same.
So, as I'm not in Manos's team but in Agnes's one, I won't be present in
Manos-L and I'll probably unsubscribe from Rainbow-L.
But, as I am subcommie for Venezia, Padova, Verona, Treviso, Udine, Trieste,
whenever you need to contact this part of the Network don't hesitate to
contact me :)
Plus I remain at a full disposal for cooperation with other Italian locals
for helping each other out in issues like fund raising, human resources,
university support, etc.
I think that Manos has perfectly realized which are the problems of italian
locals, so I wish him all the best for his term.
Sorry for referring so often to "Italian locals"... I am sure that Manos
will be able to understand also all the problems of non-Italian locals
assigned to him :)
Good luck Manos for everything! And good luck to all subcommissioner which I
had the pleasure to work with in Katja's team!
Bye bye!
--
Sebastiano Perale
AEGEE-Venezia President
Team Agnes's Subcommissioner
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--------- Original Message --------
Da: Manos Valasis <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Oggetto: Re: [RAINBOW-L] Manos-l or a new one?
Data: 28/05/08 18:47
>
> Dear Marcella, dear all,first of all, a huge thank you to you and to
everyone who has or who will mail a well-disposed criticism :)So, no, this
part of the network was not discarded,but indeed it took me some time
working in the background in order to settle things among Netcommies and
Subcommies,
> and also traveling in Italy last week to meet some locals and their people
(netcom trip report will follow).About this list, since a lot of you think
that this list has to remain as it is, and since this is your list
(netcommies are not forever - locals are),
> i think that you can all forget my previous e-mail.RAINBOW-L will remain
as it is, but it will have no official role for the Netcom (as it includes
locals divided to 5 netcommies)So, who am I ?I'm Manos Valasis. I come
from AEGEE-Peiraias (Vice-President, IT, Exchanges)
> I'm 23, working as a computer programmer, and decided to postpone
going to the army or for a master for a year in order to "spend" it for
AEGEE.I requested Italian locals because I have a lot of good friends in
several Italian locals (Roma, Bologna, Forli, Ferrara, Cagliari, Trieste,
Messina, etc),
> because i partially come from the ionian islands (corfu), and thus i am
familiar with the Italian culture,but mainly because this is the part of the
network that i would really really like to contribute to.Apart from the
general strategy of the Netcom for the network,
> i have added two high priority goals for Italy:1) HR, HR, HR, HR, HR.
attracting new (active) members.2) improve the communation among locals, the
Netcom and the CD (that is, for local level to European).
> So, I want you to know and feel that me personally and my team are there
for you.You can call me on my mobile phone any time during day or night,
even for the silliest thing.That is not something that I'm typing just
to make "public relations".
> I am here for you, and so is my team, which by the way is the most
important thing you should know.I didn't intend to introduce them this
way, but sometimes it's not bad to be driven by situations!
> So, this is my precious team:Nicola Siza from AEGEE-Cagliari, who will
take care of AEGEE-Cagliari, AEGEE-Firenze, AEGEE-Pisa & AEGEE-Siena,
> and will also be responsible for establishing new locals in the
surrounding regions.Dario di Girolamo from AEGEE-Palermo who will take care
of Sicily & Malta (meaning AEGEE-Catania, AEGEE-Messina, AEGEE-Palermo &
AEGEE-Valletta) and will also be responsible for establishing new locals in
Sicily.
> He will work together with the ex-subcomie of the area, Stefania Paola
Pasqua from AEGEE-Cosenza,who will from now on take care of
AEGEE-Avellino-Benevento, AEGEE-Bari, AEGEE-Cosenza & AEGEE-Lecce
> a little pause to the introduction, to report that Dario & Stefy will try
a new model based on 2 subcommies per region(so it's more like 2 people
having 8 locals, and not 1 having 4 and an other one having an other 4)
> Last but not least, the one, the man, the unique.........Diiiiiino
Margiotta from AEGEE-Roma,who switched to AEGEE-Roma, AEGEE-Salerno,
AEGEE-Termoli, AEGEE-Teramo, AEGEE-Napoli
> Two or three people are expected to be added to the team soon, but they
will not deal with subcommissioning.This is an open call for anyone
interested in development of the Network:Anyone interested in searching for
new locals to establish and supporting them, please do e-mail me :)
> So far, i think i've written more than Marcella, which is not good :P
(no offence)i'll let my team introduce themselves on their own!One more
open call before i say ciao,any antenna interested in oraganizing a network
meeting funded by youth in action from december 2008 till february 2009,
> please contact me :)last thing, in order to make you hate me a bit,i
decided to copy the lyrics of my favourite italian song/artist.presenting:
laure pausini - La solitudine :DLa solitudine fra noi
>
> Questo silenzio dentro me
> È l'inqueitudine di vivere
> La vita senza te
>
> Ti prego aspettami perché
> Non posso stare senza te
> Non è possibile dividere
> La storia di noi due We are here for you. SIncerely.Don't hesitate
contacting as even for the silliest thing!In fact, please do contact as,
even without a reason!
> AEGEEfully yours,Manos Valasisand his happy team, Dario, Dino, Francesco,
Nicola, Stefy
> ========================
>
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> ===== skype: gatos_fc ======
> ======================== On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Marcella Cortesi
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Manos,
>
>
> First of all welcome!! I was actually worried about this part of the
Network being left out discarded, but I see it was just momentary silence :)
And I am happy you decided to count on the help of Subcommies who know well
their locals. It's very honest and wise from your side to admit you need
help of people from a side of the Network you have never worked in.
>
>
>
> I guess that as for the name of the ML there is a misunderstanding: I
understood you only want to change the name, not delete the archives of
Rainbow-L, right? (please confirm). If you just want to change the name I
see it in perfect coherence with the current situation. Just practically as
Antonio pointed out: in Aachen we will change Netcommie again, therefore I
guess that we will change again the name of the ML. Isn't it a bit
confusing? Not that it's a huge problem, a name stays a name, but I
wouldn't like if this lead to constant unsubscriptions...It's
already difficult to make aegee members subscribe to one ML, we don't
need to confuse them more and more.
>
>
>
> Why not (as somebody proposed before) creating a ML just for your locals?
Otherwise what will other Netcommies who take care of other team katja's
locals do? Why can't you create a ML just for your locals? This not
'to leave good memories' but instead to leave Team katja's
locals together for after Aachen, where hopefully another Netcommie will be
chosen for them.
>
>
>
> One thing I would like to ask you, as AEGEE member and convinced European.
>
> Please, let's leave out the explanations of the non-existence of
Regions. I am a bit sick of hearing that explanation "as may of you already
know, the regions concept in AEGEE is discontinued, so that there is no such
thing as 'regions' in AEGEE". I am quite an old member and I can
tell you that Regions have NEVER existed, it has always been a "geographical
task division" among Netcommies. The same it is now, it was just decided to
change former names to the name of the Netcommie. And please, if you will
happen to hear from time to time still the name "Rainbow" don't jump as
if you were biten by a dog, I am sure that also a lot of people still uses
the name "Balkania" from time to time...it is simply more practical, instead
of saying everytime the name of the Netcommie. Believe me, it has only to do
with that.
>
>
>
> Consequently I got you want to change the name of the ML. Fine with me,
perfect. Just let me say that it's not really coherent (ok, it sounded a
bit funny! No offence, of course) that you mention the locals and then you
mention the name of the Countries. Here people understand perfectly the
concept of Network vs national level, more than you maybe think. Anyway, I
guess it was just a way to make us understand you :)
>
>
>
> Lastly, I want to wish you and your team good work and good luck: you have
a big challenge ahead, for which I am happy you have energy and
proactiveness.
>
>
>
> I hope we will receive other messages from all other Netcommies taking
care of former Team katja's locals, I think we deserve an explanation
from the netcom on what you want to do with this part of the network till
Aachen. I have to say I would have preferred as first email from you an
email where you were introducing yourself, and where you were discretely
sensing the situation, instead of entering like a panzer and communicating a
decision without explaining it well. I tell you this as advice for the
future...
>
>
>
> Good luck again, and thanks for serving and protecting us!
>
> Marcella
>
>
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----Da: Manos Valasis <[log in to unmask]>
> A: [log in to unmask]
> Inviato: Mercoledì 28 maggio 2008, 10:40:12Oggetto: [RAINBOW-L] GOODBYE
RAINBOW-LHello all,as may of you already know, the regions concept in AEGEE
is discontinued, sothat there is no such thing as "regions" in AEGEE.
>
> Rainbow-l's countries have been divided among several Network
Commissioners,so Rainbow-l on its current form will be discontinued as
well.This list will be renamed to MANOS-L,which means that it addresses to
locals that i have to "serve & protect"
>
> till Aachen.Those locals
are,Avellino-BeneventoBariBolognaCagliariCataniaCosenzaFerraraFirenzeForliLecceMessinaNapoliPalermoPisaRomaSalernoSiena
>
> TeramoTermoliTrentoVallettaAthinaRodosPeiraiasPatraThessalonikiIn other
words, Greece, Malta, and Italy except the Northern part!To all the others,
you are more than welcomed to remain subscribed to this
>
> list :)To those who wish to unsubscribe, you will have to send a message
[log in to unmask] the text unsubscribe MANOS-LMy aim is to be a close
to you as possible, and that is why I have already
>
> started visiting you, and why a very strong Italian Subcommissioners
teamhas been formed.I will introduce them to you very very soon.for anyone
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