Hello,
I completly agree that it is not a good thing to have
two events the same week end but when we decided to do
this meeting at the agora, we asked to Carlos, Calin,
Marcus and someone from Utrecht when they could come
to help us, there was only this week end...

First, I was not supposed to prevent you about this
bi-regional meeting (it is north-west and south-west
regions) but I thought (I was maybe wrong) that some
of you would be interested by what we want to do.
With Olivier, we were unhappy because there is almost
no AEGEE in France. Our students don't want to be in
an european association,they prefer to study instead
of discovering the world... And we thought : What can
we do to improve AEGEE in France ? So, we decided to
meet all the French antennas to talk with them about
the problems of AEGEE in France, to explain to Calin
and to the Networks what happen in our country. Then,
we thought that perhaps some people from others
countries would be interested too and we did not want
to do a special meeting for french antennas because
there is no national level in AEGEE and we don't want
to stay just with French people. Some Germans accept
to come...

You're right, we did not check the list of events.
We planned this meeting at the agora so it is strange
that no French told you about that.

I personnaly try to build AEGEE in Aix-en-Provence. I
will do some meetings next wednesday and we hoped that
we could do some exchange with Torino. I hope that you
are not so angry...
And I still think that a transalp-list is a great
idea.

If you have any comment, don't hesitate but please it
is not just my fault... I just do the programm,
Olivier does the logisitic. You have now two motivated
French people. You can laught but usually there is
none... So, please, don't blame us so much when we try
to do our best to promote AEGEE around us...

Solène

--- Nicola Rega <[log in to unmask]> a écrit : >
Dear Solène, dear all,
>
> I'm Nicola, the president of Aegee-Torino. I want to
> give a short comment to
> your event.
> When I was in Udine I've spoken with a lot of people
> from Italy, Switzerland
> and France (included Olivier) about a new way of
> communicating between us,
> because I think we are so close but we have so
> borders between us. And
> everybody agreed with my idea of setting up a new
> mailing list called
> transalps-l. Unfortunately this is taking a lot of
> time, but maybe at the
> end of this week we'll have this new ml.
>
> You had a great idea. But there are different ways
> of cooperation...
>
> I'm very disappointed because of your message for
> the following reasons:
> 1)    In the same time we have in Torino a very
> important event: a
> conference that is part of the yearplan "Borderless
> Europe". It was on the
> calendar of official events since 22/06/2000. Maybe
> when you've decided to
> organize your event you forgot to check the calendar
> of events... Sometimes
> happens... But it was mentioned, in this ml, also in
> the Davide's report
> after the Agora. I don't want to think that you have
> subscirbed this ml only
> for promoting your event...
> 2)    When I was in Udine I've talked with many
> people from France. Nobody
> told me about this kind of event. If we were talking
> about the same aims
> (crossing regional borders), why didn't you
> mentioned this idea? Maybe
> because it wasn't already planned...
> 3)    I don't like this kind of colonialism. If you
> want to cooperate, first
> discuss and then make a propose. It's not fair to
> organize and then invite.
>
> So we, Aegee-Torino, kindly ask you to pospone your
> event, in order to start
> a REAL cooperation, based on communication and
> common projects.
>
> Nicola
>
>
> -----Messaggio Originale-----
> Da: solene rapinel <[log in to unmask]>
> A: <[log in to unmask]>
> Data invio: venerdì 17 novembre 2000 11.20
> Oggetto: [MISC-REG-L] URGENT : bi-regional meeting
> in Cergy
>
>
> > Hello,This is the programm of the bi-regional
> > meetingof
> > Cergy-Pontoise the 2nd and 3rd of december
> organisedby
> > AEGEE-Aix-en-Provence and
> > AEGEE-Cergy-Pontoise.Saturday :- 10h45 : welcome
> > - 11h : what is AEGEE by Carlos (south-west
> > network)-12h : lunch
> > - 13h30 : Public relations by Marcus
> > (publicrelationsworking group)
> > - 16h : fundraising by Utrecht (north-west
> > network)orWolgang (AEGEE-Paris)
> > - European nightDimanche :- 10h : The
> communication
> > inAEGEE by Calin (C.D.)
> > - 11h : Hexagone-L by Susanne (AEGEE-Paris)
> > - 11h30 : The network commissers (Carlos and
> Utrecht)
> > - 12h : the working groups
> > byOlivier(AEGEE-Cergy-Pontoise)- 12h30 : lunch
> > - 14 h : The antennas' problem with AEGEE-Toulouse
> > - 15h : Share your experience with
> > Merljin(AEGEE-Lyon), Lucas (AEGEE-Munich),
> > Jörn-Jakob(AEGEE-Mannheim)...
> > - 17h : good byeTo the antennas who will
> participate
> > :please send as
> > soon as possible a list with at least 2 personnes.
> If
> > more people want to come, just ask it.
> > To the others antennas : We still need some people
> to
> > testify, share the experience... Can you send
> someone
> > who can understand french in case of
> somethingissaying
> > in french.
> > Olivier is going to send an e-mail tomorrow about
> > logisitic. If you get any question :
> [log in to unmask]
> > If you have any question about the
> > programm:[log in to unmask] you soon
> > Solène
> >
> >
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