Dear friends,... it's Luca Falcone, coordinator for the italian part of "A VISA FOR AEGEE". I hope my message will be not too direct: I don't want to insult anybody and I continue to respect ideas of everybody. Only I'm not pleased with the last development of the project. Under the name of the same project I sow some enterprises I don't share. And I don't share them not because of their contents, that, on the contrary, are very near my personal feelings, but because in this moment I think they were inopportune. The main problem is that in the last period "A VISA FOR AEGEE" is changing into the request of the abolition of visa requirements in Europe, or, at least, the realization of procedures as simple and transparent as possible. AND IT'S NOT, AND IT WAS NOT, ITS PURPOSE !!! We projected to ask Italian and Spanish Governments a sort of official identification of AEGEE and then the posssibility TO OBTAIN VISAS for AEGEE members coming to partecipate to AEGEE events! Now this project is changing in something very bigger and more important, and surely more beautiful, but VERY NEAR TO A DREAM!!! We can't ask the abolition of visas. Or we can, but we will spend unusefully our time! And our objective is not to organize a big and heroical enterprise destined to a SURE FLOP, but a little discreet request perhaps (and of course not surely!!!) destinated to obtain that AEGEE members from Romania, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Turkey, Jugoslavia, Bulgaria will can partecipate to Agoras and PM (Planning Meetings now!) and all the other kind of events in countries like Italy, Spain, but also others, like France, that now are not included in the project. Then, please! We can organize more then one project! Abolition of visas is an other project, not "A VISA FOR AEGEE" (you can understand it also from the name!). Because of this, now I have some fears. First of all the intersting and well-written letter Markus and Karina addressed to all ministers of justice or home affairs of the EU! Knowing Italian systems, I think that, unfortunately, a letter like that one (I repeat: it's a good letter!) was never read by the Doct. Piero Fassino, Italian Minister of Justice, and by the Doct. Enzo Bianco, Italian Minister of Home Affairs, but it was read only by some employees of the Ministries. In this moment I'm very sincere. Then, please, forgive me! The problem is that we asked something too big for us, something concerning diplomatic contacts between States. Personally I think we can ask only something about AEGEE! Not something about WORLD! Of course if we want to be productive. However the letters of "A VISA FOR AEGEE" will be sent to the Foreign Affairs Minister, and other people not linked to those Ministries. Then we can continue the project with the hope to still reach our receivers. But the very big problem is about the letters from the patrons! They must not be a request to abolish visa requirements in Europe, or at least make procedures as simple and transparent as possible, or they can be, in the best chance, completely unuseful: it's impossible that a State may change its international law because of the request of a foreign authority! Can you imagine Italy changing rules about relationships with Romania because of the request of, for exemple, the President of the German Parliament, or of the last President of URSS? I think it's impossible! And after that we won't try anithing else! But this is the best chance! The worst, and the most probable, is that patrons will refuse their letters, because they know , before everybody else, they can't interfere in that way in the life of an independent State! And then we won't ask them anithing else! And in both cases our project will be closed! Finished! I don't know Eva's opinion about this question, and I'd like to know what about Spain. For Italy this is the situation, I think! Then, please, continue in the first way, following the first project! This is my prayer! And in that case: 1. Please, Ivana, our dear general PR Responsible, ask three or four patrons to write for us A PRESENTATION OF AEGEE FROM THEIR VIEW POINT, WITH THE REASONS WHY THEY ACCEPTED TO PATROCINATE AEGEE, and nothing else, please! The request about visa must be from us, from, at least for Italy, Davide Calenda, NetCom for the region (who, kindly, has just accepted!). Letters from Patrons must be only a support for the credibility of AEGEE! 2. At least for Italy I think it's better to subscribe letters with only the names of the Italian Presidents. Then, please, can the President of each Italian Antenna reading this e-mail send me the confirmation I can subscribe in the future those letters with their names. Of course it's only a first confirmation! The last and the most important one will be after they will read the letters! 3. Can all the Presidents of antennae suffering problems for visas start sending me their schedules? 4. It's a request for some NetComs: can Sebastian Hejnowski (NetCom for Central Region), Davor Abramovic (NetCom for Carpathian Region) and Ivan Petrenko (NetCom for East Region) start asking all the antennae with problems with Italian visas in their regions to send me their schedules (follow, please, the model I introduced you in my first e-mail on AEGEE-L!). I need the help of NetCommies if I want to reach all the antennae. I don't know if for Spain Eva will decide for the same system! Wait for her, for the Spanish part of the project. 5. Dear Markus, may you continue, at least for the Italian size, to coordinate the part concerning CD also after this specification? I know I'm asking you a lot of things in the same period, but it's an evidence of AEGEE vitality about the question of visas! Now I'd like to greet each of you. See you. Luca Falcone AEGEE Europe Human Rights WG PR Responsible Visa Freedom Fighters WG Vice-President AEGEE Napoli E-mail address: [log in to unmask] ============================================================================= MISC-REG-L is hosted on aegeeserv courtesy of AEGEE-Karlsruhe. Check out http://www.aegee.uni-karlsruhe.de/archives for the archives of public lists. To unsubscribe send 'unsubscribe MISC-REG-L' to [log in to unmask]