Dear Manos, First of all welcome!! I was actually worried about this part of the Network being left out discarded, but I see it was just momentary silence :) And I am happy you decided to count on the help of Subcommies who know well their locals. It's very honest and wise from your side to admit you need help of people from a side of the Network you have never worked in. I guess that as for the name of the ML there is a misunderstanding: I understood you only want to change the name, not delete the archives of Rainbow-L, right? (please confirm). If you just want to change the name I see it in perfect coherence with the current situation. Just practically as Antonio pointed out: in Aachen we will change Netcommie again, therefore I guess that we will change again the name of the ML. Isn't it a bit confusing? Not that it's a huge problem, a name stays a name, but I wouldn't like if this lead to constant unsubscriptions...It's already difficult to make aegee members subscribe to one ML, we don't need to confuse them more and more. Why not (as somebody proposed before) creating a ML just for your locals? Otherwise what will other Netcommies who take care of other team katja's locals do? Why can't you create a ML just for your locals? This not 'to leave good memories' but instead to leave Team katja's locals together for after Aachen, where hopefully another Netcommie will be chosen for them. One thing I would like to ask you, as AEGEE member and convinced European. Please, let's leave out the explanations of the non-existence of Regions. I am a bit sick of hearing that explanation "as may of you already know, the regions concept in AEGEE is discontinued, so that there is no such thing as 'regions' in AEGEE". I am quite an old member and I can tell you that Regions have NEVER existed, it has always been a "geographical task division" among Netcommies. The same it is now, it was just decided to change former names to the name of the Netcommie. And please, if you will happen to hear from time to time still the name "Rainbow" don't jump as if you were biten by a dog, I am sure that also a lot of people still uses the name "Balkania" from time to time...it is simply more practical, instead of saying everytime the name of the Netcommie. Believe me, it has only to do with that. Consequently I got you want to change the name of the ML. Fine with me, perfect. Just let me say that it's not really coherent (ok, it sounded a bit funny! No offence, of course) that you mention the locals and then you mention the name of the Countries. Here people understand perfectly the concept of Network vs national level, more than you maybe think. Anyway, I guess it was just a way to make us understand you :) Lastly, I want to wish you and your team good work and good luck: you have a big challenge ahead, for which I am happy you have energy and proactiveness. I hope we will receive other messages from all other Netcommies taking care of former Team katja's locals, I think we deserve an explanation from the netcom on what you want to do with this part of the network till Aachen. I have to say I would have preferred as first email from you an email where you were introducing yourself, and where you were discretely sensing the situation, instead of entering like a panzer and communicating a decision without explaining it well. I tell you this as advice for the future... Good luck again, and thanks for serving and protecting us! Marcella ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: Manos Valasis <[log in to unmask]> A: [log in to unmask] Inviato: Mercoledì 28 maggio 2008, 10:40:12 Oggetto: [RAINBOW-L] GOODBYE RAINBOW-L Hello all, as may of you already know, the regions concept in AEGEE is discontinued, so that there is no such thing as "regions" in AEGEE. Rainbow-l's countries have been divided among several Network Commissioners, so Rainbow-l on its current form will be discontinued as well. This list will be renamed to MANOS-L, which means that it addresses to locals that i have to "serve & protect" till Aachen. Those locals are, Avellino-Benevento Bari Bologna Cagliari Catania Cosenza Ferrara Firenze Forli Lecce Messina Napoli Palermo Pisa Roma Salerno Siena Teramo Termoli Trento Valletta Athina Rodos Peiraias Patra Thessaloniki In other words, Greece, Malta, and Italy except the Northern part! To all the others, you are more than welcomed to remain subscribed to this list :) To those who wish to unsubscribe, you will have to send a message to [log in to unmask] with the text unsubscribe MANOS-L My aim is to be a close to you as possible, and that is why I have already started visiting you, and why a very strong Italian Subcommissioners team has been formed. I will introduce them to you very very soon. for anyone that wants to get in contact with me, ======================== == msn: [log in to unmask] == = e-mail: [log in to unmask] = === mobile: +306947683611 === ===== skype: gatos_fc ====== ======================== AEGEEfully yours, Manos Valasis - Network Commission and his happy team, Dario, Dino, Francesco, Nicola, Stefania ============================================================================== RAINBOW-L is a regional discussion list of AEGEE. Check out http://www.aegee.uni-karlsruhe.de/archives for the archives of public lists. 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