Ciao Graziana, ciao a tutti :)    
 
Sicuramente un manuale di sopravvivenza con  situazioni tipo di quello che può 
succedere in una Summer e come un socio AEGEE  in queste occasioni se la può 
cavare con l'inglese sarebbe molto utile. Io però  lo integrerei con delle 
lezioni intensive di inglese con un insegnante  madrelingua a basso costo per i 
partecipanti. Prendete un insegnante  professionista o uno studente Erasmus che 
studia lingue (quindi teoricamente +  portato per lì'insegnamento) e chiedetegli 
quanto prende per un'ora di lezione.  Immagino sui 25/30€..beh, dividete quella 
cifra per una decina di studenti che  accetteranno di pagare 3€ a lezione per 
una mezz'oretta di grammatica e mezz'ora  di conversazione AEGEE/SU oriented. 

 
Con questi corsi pilota poi potreste al ritorno  dalle SU e con l'arrivo della 
nuova ondata Erasmus (quindi di tanti potenziali  'insegnanti') unire una 
campagna soci AEGEE dicendo che per frequetnare i corsi  bisogna essere soci e 
quindi a parte dovrebbero pagare la tessera. E potreste  estendere il numero 
delle lingue insegnate.
 
Comunque sia, bisognerebbe trovare un modo per  creare nei soci quello che in 
marketing è un bisogno indotto, la necessità non  spontaneamente riconosciuta di 
qualcosa (in questo caso l'inglese) che però  grazie a delle apposite strategie 
di marketing viene riconosciuto come  importante. Quindi, pensate a come far 
capire che è fondamentale la conoscenza  dell'inglese. Ora è importante per le 
Summer, in autunno potreste puntare sul  lavoro, lo studio, etc. E ogni 
'ragione' avrebbe delle iniziative  particolari..
 
Spero di avervi dato degli spunti, a disposizione  per ogni eventuale consiglio 
di cui potreste avere bisogno.
 
Silvia
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Da: Gokhan Bozkurt <[log in to unmask]>
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Inviato: Mar 11 settembre 2007, 22:29:14
Oggetto: Re: [RAINBOW-L] FRES - Financial Management Training Course


Hi Antonio, hi everybody..
 
actually, I exactly thought the same thing when I first checked the trainers of 
the event.. so I have to agree with what you re saying..
 
Becasue, the aim of inviting an external trainer (e.g:salto) is to provide 
somebody who can give the best or ,at least, a very high quality information on 
a particular subject of the training... if you select trainers with this 
aim, salto is a very useful tool for selecting ext. trainers.. but if you select 
somebody who has "a bit " information on the subject of the training, it is not 
so smart;) I belive that there are already many Academy trainers in AEGEE who 
have more than "a bit" knowledge on FR :-)
 
and I personally know the rest of the Academy trainers of the event... I think 
we dont need to discuss anything on Burcu  :) she is one of the best people to 
talk about FR in AEGEE.. and the other 2 AEGEE members: Mathias and Maria.. they 
are also both very experienced in AEGEE and trainings..also they re great people 
in character.. so I cannot have any doubt if participants will learn from them 
or not.. I am pretty sure that participants are gonna love them and learn A 
LOOTTTTTT!! they are reallly good trainers..
 
But back to topic, what you are saying is partly true in my opinion..I also 
thought the same when I saw the trainers names on the website.. "uppsss, nice 
but its FRES...??  
 
In thematic academy events( pres-fres-ites etc..), we must NOT select good 
trainers in general, but the good trainers in that particular subject of the 
course... so, if a good trainer puts NONE for her information on the subject of 
the training, then we must focus on other tranings.. so, I  must agree with you, 
Antonio, in this issue.
 
but anyway.. as we know very well that things do not work in that way in AEGEE.. 
If you are manager, you are free to select whoever you want as trainers.. 

 
and in general.. sad but true , project managers generally prefer to work with 
their "good friends".. friendzzzzzz rule:-)
 
anyway.. the manager is Burcu, i trust her.. if she wanted it in this way.. she 
must know something that we dont know..and I still do believe that partcipants 
will LEARN A LOT out of this trainings..
 
I already forwarded it to a number local mailing lists to let all AEGEE members 
know about this training..
 
Greetings to all..
 
Gokhan Bozkurt


"A. V." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi there!
>I have one question: this event has a manager very expert in financial 
>management and FR (and not just), but 2 out of 3 other trainers in their "Salto" 
>profile have indicate NONE or "a bit" of experience in FR and financial 
>management.
>Usually PM of an event is not doing also trainings, so my question: what could 
>an AEGEE member learn out of this event? Or maybe there will be other trainers 
>expert in FR, not indicated in the website? 
>http://www.aegee-academy.org/es/page.php?id=174
>Ciao
>Antonio
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>Subject : [RAINBOW-L] FRES - Financial Management Training Course, Utrecht
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>> Dear  locals,
>>
>> ever wanted to learn about real FR?
>>
>> ever wanted to improve your local FR?
>>
>> Than check out this open call and apply :)
>>
>>
>> *Call for Applications:
>> Financial Management Training Course - AEGEE
>> 19-25 November 2007, Utrecht, the Netherlands *
>>
>> AEGEE-Utrecht & AEGEE-Academy are organizing the *Financial Management for
>> European Youth Organizations *training course in* Utrecht*, the Netherlandson
>> *19th-25th November 2007.*
>>
>> The training aims at improving the capacity of European youth organizations
>> in financial management, fostering exchange of best practice in the field
>> and establishing a clear link between youth policies and relevant
>> stakeholders.
>> The training programme will cover fundraising strategy, public funding,
>> private funding, budgeting, application writing, reporting, lobbying,
>>  exchange of best practice and follow-up.
>> AEGEE is cooperatng with partner youth organizations for this training to
>> bring a greater European dimension and to concretely work with other youth
>> organizations!
>> We are very much looking forward to also see participants nominated by your
>> organizations!
>> The deadline for nominations: 19th September 2007, 18:00
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>> Nomination form is attached
>>
>> www.aegee-academy.org/es/fres-utrecht
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